Why I’ve Switched 100% To HootSuite For My Desktop-Based Twittering (For Now)
A couple of months ago, I suggested that HootSuite was the closest thing we have to the perfect Twitter client.
Since then, and really over the past fortnight or so, I’ve switched completely to HootSuite for all of my desktop-based Twitter interaction. I no longer use any downloadable Twitter client.
Here’s why:
- Wherever I go, when I log into HootSuite it’s configured exactly how it was when I last left it.
- My columns, lists, searches and setup are all right there. All the time.
- This is the beauty of all web-based apps, of course (see later for more on this) – whether I’m at home, at work, looking at HootSuite on my iPhone, or even at an internet café or friend’s house, it’s enormously comforting, as well as productive, to know that when I log onto HootSuite, I’m getting exactly what I want.
- I manage several client accounts on Twitter, and HootSuite is far and away the best and easiest way to do this. It makes CoTweet look like a dinosaur in comparison. Especially as the iPhone HootSuite app means you can monitor and respond to brand mentions essentially 24/7.
- Scheduling tweets is a breeze (as is editing those that are pending).
- The one-click conversations feature is super-useful, especially when you get a very random, out-of-nowhere reply to something that you’d long forgotten about.
- The audio notification is really subtle (and doesn’t scare the life out of you like on TweetDeck).
- There’s some syncing available with some downloadable Twitter clients, but it means installing the software everywhere you go. This often isn’t an option at work or at a new location, and that means a juggling act between the client and the next best thing.
- I’m a big fan of owls.
HootSuite still isn’t perfect, and the inability to choose the URL shortener I want – bit.ly being the only shortener anybody should be using (assuming, you know, you want people to read and retweet your stuff) – is still a problem. I use bit.ly sidebar for every link I share, which is fine and something I’m now very much used to doing, but if you have to leave an app to get the feature you want, that’s a problem. Most people won’t bother, and that’s a shame, as HootSuite nails virtually everything else.
There are other web-based options, of course. Lots of folks love Brizzly, but it just hasn’t quite clicked for me, possibly because I’m a big fan of columns. I spend most of my time in lists, mentions and searches, and in Brizzly that means constant clicking from one-to-another.
It also niggles that I have to be on the home screen to actually write a new tweet. Plus, every time I visit Brizzly, it tells me I have loads of unread direct messages, which I do not. Sure, I can tell it to ‘shhh’, but that’s one extra step I never have to do on HootSuite. A minor irritant, but an irritation nonetheless.
Still, Brizzly does have something, and enough people I respect rate it to prevent me from dismissing it entirely without further investigation. (This includes Brizzly for iPhone, which I’m downloading as I write. Still, it’ll have to get up very early in the morning to supersede Tweetie as my mobile app of choice.)
Others rave about the Seesmic web app, but I find the features there a little lacking, notably the inability to manage multiple accounts. It all seems a little cold, too.
Both of these score a hefty win over HootSuite by incorporating the new-style Twitter retweets (although the way Seesmic web manages retweets of me is essentially useless), and as I find myself using the internal RTs more and more it’s a feature that’s notably missing from HootSuite. Again, I have to visit Twitter.com to monitor all of this, or to actually do a Twitter-style RT at all, which is another sign that something is broken.
But HootSuite gives me enough that this is something I’m prepared to put up with. For now. You see, us Twitter users are fickle beasts, and prone to hop over to the next best app when it offers a solution to something that has started to eat away at our very souls. Or has simply become a nuisance.
I’m encouraged by news that a pro version of HootSuite is on the cards (confirmed here). Assuming it’s not priced at ludicrous Rupert Murdoch-style levels, solves all of these issues and gives us some cool new stuff to play around with, I’ll happily pay for the privilege of accessing and interacting with Twitter in the best way that I possibly can.
All that being said, this reminds me of my previous comments about how a plugin-based Twitter app, which would allow us to pick our favourite elements from HootSuite, Brizzly, Seesmic, TweetDeck, Tweetie and every other app out there, is still, in this Twitterer’s opinion, the best way forward.
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I have tried Hootsuite, but keep going back to Seesmic Desktop. I don't like web-based Twitter apps because they seem constraining. Seesmic Desktop seems to have all the features you are talking about (and more) with the exception of scheduled tweets…which I don't use out of principle. Just not a fan of them because it takes away from the “personal” touch of Twitter. Plus it seems more stable than Tweetdeck
But, like you said, we are fickle beasts and who knows what the next big thing will be!
Where Seesmic and the other downloadable apps fall down is when you use your Twitter account at various locations, as I addressed above. It means multiple installs and having to change the configuration at every location when you change something at one. And if you're restricted at work from downloading software, or at a strange location, then anything but a web-based client is very much off-limits.
I didn't like the latest build of Seesmic Desktop at all, but even then the previous version handles Twitter lists poorly – they need to be constantly refreshed, as opposed to auto-updating like on HootSuite. And if you set-up your own Seesmic list, you need to repeat this on every computer you use (as well as rebuilding it from scratch if something goes wrong, which it did for me during the last update).
I agree in principle regarding scheduled tweets, but they have their uses, particularly for maintaining a presence during an absence, for prompts, etc, as well as ensuring you reach the broadest audience you can over the different timezones.
HootSuite isn't perfect, but I have a feeling it's going to be VERY close to that on the next major update.
That said, we all have a different wishlist, and once again it reminds me why plugin-based clients are the better solution for everybody.
I've been using Twhirl myself, separate windows for each account is really helpful for me and if I'm not monitoring a particular account? Poof! It's gone. I'll take a look at Hootsuite, but before when I saw something come from Hootsuite I assumed it was some marketing guru or spam.
I wasn't even aware Twhirl was still going! I've always seen your tweets as being sent via Seesmic, and assumed it was Desktop.
As said, HootSuite is super-useful if you access Twitter via multiple locations, but if you're predominately using it at one place (i.e., home) then the advantages will be less apparent. Worth a look, though, and definitely not spam.
Twhirl loves my Mac and is less intrusive in a work environment, hanging about like a chat window instead of a FULL PAGE. I also moved to Twhirl at home as well. Still using Tweetdeck on the iPhone, but it's a serious pain.
Also curiously, Twhirl posts show in the tweetstream as Seesmic posts. I've noticed that as well.
I strongly recommend you switch to Tweetie on your iPhone. You'll love it, I think.
HootSuite's lack of the built-in Twitter retweet is a show-stopper for me. I have to click on the tweet, and then click on a couple more links to open the Twitter web page and get to the tweet. ow.ly is another show-stopper.
Tell me how “columns” in HootSuite are better than browser tabs, other than not using desktop RAM
As I addressed above, it's a big plus for me to be able to monitor everything (multiple columns, searches, lists, feeds etc) on one screen. Having to click between windows – be that browser tabs or pages such as in Brizzly – is one step too many. Different strokes, etc.
Columns are hugely popular, though, and they're the primary reason why TweetDeck was (and continues to be) such a hit, and while nearly all the other apps took a leaf out of that book. It's less important to me in a mobile client, but absolutely essential on my desktop.
Your other points will hopefully be addressed in HootSuite Pro, as I stated in my piece. No client is perfect, but for me HootSuite is as close as it gets right now, and will be closer still if they address these niggles (which I think they will).
As I addressed above, it's a big plus for me to be able to monitor everything (multiple columns, searches, lists, feeds etc) on one screen. Having to click between windows – be that browser tabs or pages such as in Brizzly – is one step too many. Different strokes, etc.
Columns are hugely popular, though, and they're the primary reason why TweetDeck was (and continues to be) such a hit, and while nearly all the other apps took a leaf out of that book. It's less important to me in a mobile client, but absolutely essential on my desktop.
Your other points will hopefully be addressed in HootSuite Pro, as I stated in my piece. No client is perfect, but for me HootSuite is as close as it gets right now, and will be closer still if they address these niggles (which I think they will).
Sheamus, Thanks for the post, and as always, your invaluable feedback. Safe to say, as you may already know, we're working on a brand new seesmic desktop with a platform that allows a plugin architecture that will allow you to pick and choose features to install. We're currently working on the SDK that will allow developers to build features, and we're pretty excited about it. We'll keep you posted
That's fantastic news, John – please keep me informed with progress as that sounds exactly like what I've been blathering on about.
I use it on iPhone but not on computer. Hate that it’s web based and that there is no desktop client for PC. All I’d like is something like tweetdeck that can remember last read position like hootsuite.