A Block On Twitter Isn’t A Block At All
In my article “Why Replies On Twitter Are Far More Damaging Than Direct Messages”, I address the limitations of the block feature on Twitter. As Twitter’s help portal states:
Blocking someone means that you (and your pic) will not appear on the blocked party’s profile page, friends time line, badge, or anywhere else. The person will not be notified that they’ve been blocked, and they will be unable to follow you. If your account is public, the blocked party can still view your profile page, but can’t receive your updates in their timeline or on their phone.
This is all well and good, but as a system it’s an extremely casual approach to a much bigger problem. When you block somebody, they can still:
- Read your timeline
- Send you @replies, which are still visible to everybody else, and remain within Twitter search, and will be delivered to you if you have a search for your replies configured on Seesmic Desktop or TweetDeck
- Re-tweet your messages, which can give the impression to others that you are ‘friends’
If you’ve had experience as a bulletin board administrator, you’ll know that when you properly block somebody, you have the facility to stop the person from reading anything on the forum (assuming half-decent, standardised software). With plugins, you have the same powers when you run a blog. Likewise, when you block somebody on Facebook, that’s it for them. They can’t read anything you’ve said. You simply disappear.
Why Is It Different On Twitter?
So, why is it different on Twitter? Why does it need to be? I can’t think of any reason why somebody would think the block system as it stands is acceptable. Twitter’s block is a bit like taking out a restraining order on somebody, and then letting them watch you on a webcam.
In the comments on my recent article about Twitter’s spam problems, some of my readers expressed their feelings about the block issue.
Andrea says:
Also on the subject of blocking, I do think that it would be on everybody`s best interest to improve the current block system. What is the point in blocking someone if they can still come view ones updates and then go on to RT then and/or reply @ username which is then viewable by all who do a search for the said @ username. Makes no sense at all. A block should mean just that and not a “partial” block.
Kate adds:
I also agree with Andrea’s point – the blocking system should be improved; if you block someone it should be a total block, they shouldn’t be able to make contact at all. I’m guessing that would be more difficult to do, but it would clamp down on some of the bullying that happens.
We usually have fairly good reasons for blocking somebody. Typically, it’s because they are a nuisance to us in some way – a spammer, a troll, or somebody who is just generally unpleasant or demands too much of our attention. Hence, the last thing we want after making this decision is for the individual to be privy to workarounds in the system. In the worst-case scenarios, problem individuals can become a source of genuine stress, a situation which isn’t helped by Twitter’s lack of an abuse policy.
A Block Should Be Final
When you block somebody, I think that, like Facebook, you should become completely invisible and disappear entirely from the system for that individual. This means they cannot contact you in any way, nor should they be able to read your timeline. If they try to @reply you in a message, it simply disappears into the ether. If they include your @username in a reply to others, the message never reaches you, but does go on to others who have not blocked them.
Maybe your profile should come with various degrees of privacy, again like on Facebook: You could have it set to public, which means anyone (not blocked) can view your timeline, even if they’re not logged in (like it is at the moment); semi-public, which means your timeline is only visible to non-blocked users who are logged in; and the protected updates feature, as it is now.
Indeed, Twitter’s protected updates option is one way the block could work. When you block somebody, your updates should be protected from them. Maybe it even needs to say ‘this person has protected their updates’ when you block a user, so it seems fairly innocuous.
Because the last thing you want is for a person you consider a nuisance to become aware that you have blocked them. As said, like on Facebook, you simply need to disappear. Like magic. Twitter flips a switch, the network keeps right on going, and nobody in the audience has any idea.
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I understand where you are coming from, but the reason I use protected updates is because anything other than that can be resolved by simply logging out.
If your account is PUBLIC, then there is no way of blocking someone effectively, if all they have to do is log out or connect from another IP.
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Hector, I addressed these issues in this paragraph from my piece:
You’re right in that there’s no way to do this *now*, but that’s the point of this article – things need to change!
That still won’t solve it. They could just make another twitter account, and see their page while logged into that account. (and if twitter still puts out an rss stream for that person, than all they would have to do is subscribe to that).
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I have no idea what’s going on with my issue, but I have been following Trent Reznor on Twitter until recently- now, his page seems to have disappeared, I’m not following him, and I can’t find his page at all. Did he block me or what?
Trent Reznor decided that Twitter wasn’t working out for him, so he deleted his account.
Indeed. I wrote about it here.
There seems to be some “super twitter” users who show up in my Timeline even after blocking. @globerocker..I can’t get rid of that guy! Yes, if your profile is public, then there is no way to get rid of the spam and blocked people – and I prefer to be public, otherwise what is the point? But, there has to be a way to truly block people. Spam can ruin Twitter if we and Twitter lets it..
Thanks for the excellent article. Stumbled and FB.
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Just found your site. Read this article and your other article on general improvements to Twitter. You’re are outlining and writing in an articulate, easy to follow, step-by-step fashion of EXACTLY what twitter needs. Keep it up, I really hope the people at Twitter read these.
Some folk seem to have some bizarre blocking habits.
I’d always assumed that blocking was Twitter’s way of allowing you to casually give people the cold shoulder. Twitter themselves seemed to regard it as something negative, almost a black mark against your name, given that they use(d?) them to determine if people should have their accounts shut down.
It did leave me somewhat miffed when someone blocked me a while back for no discernible reason. I couldn’t figure out why. I tweet about gaming, the person I tried to follow also tweeted about gaming (he’s a journalist for a major gaming web portal). I’ve never posted anything I’d consider overtly offensive or inflammatory on Twitter, so I was a bit puzzled as to why he’d blocked me.
I sent him a polite email, asking why I’d been blocked. His response was something along the lines of, “I only want close friends and family to follow me.” Fair enough, although his Twitter profile is set up such that it invites follows from fellow gamers. He mentions gaming a lot in his profile. His Twitter name features the name of a video game console. He predominantly tweets about video games and most of the people who reply to him (and to whom he replies) are other gaming journalists. He advertises his Twitter presence on the gaming web site he writes for. In short, there’s nothing about his profile or tweeting habits that suggests he only wants to interact with friends and family and that people with a mutual interest in gaming, but no previous contact, should stay away.
I pointed out that if he wanted to be a bit more selective about who reads his tweets, he should put his account in protected mode.
He said he didn’t want to do that because “it makes it harder for my friends who don’t have Twitter to see what I’m doing”.
I didn’t really want to go into the myriad flaws with that strategy, so I left it that.
However, it does make me wonder just how many people are actively blocking others out of some misguided notion of privacy.
I used to block people who were obvious follow-spammers (following me purely to draw attention to themselves and hoping people perusing my followers list will follow them in return), but now the quantity and regularity of those individuals makes it all a supreme waste of time. I don’t get to see any of their shit and anyone with a brain who follows me will recognize them for what they are, so there’s no real harm done. The follow-spammers will invariably have their accounts yanked or will unfollow me once they exceed their following/follower ratio and want fresh flood, so I prefer to let them do all their own hard work.
That’s the thing I don’t get about blocking either, certainly when it comes to spammers. I’m less bothered about it because them following me changes absolutely nothing about what I see on Twitter. A spammer could be following 10 million people and it wouldn’t give them any ‘power’ at all, unless enough of those 10 million were daft enough to follow them back. I think being more cagey about whom you follow is a better methodology than blocking anybody who you feel might pose some kind of ‘threat’. A block doesn’t give you much more protection than an unfollow, which of course is a big part of the point.
But here’s the rub. Twitter needs to allocate part of their resources to service those spammer accounts that follow 10 million people, so the next time twitter goes down, it might be in part due to the massive amount of spam accts in their system.
Suffice to say, that’s not our problem. It’s twitter’s problem for not having a better way of handling spam. But you can see that spam is everyone’s problem.
Even if you can’t see it directly in your timeline, it still impacts you in the environment and ecosystem of how twitter works.
For example, if spammers drive away prospective users, then fewer of the people you *want* to connect with might never get a twitter account and you will need to find another channel to interact with them.
Because Twitter is an open network and works somewhat similar to email in the way that we can be approached without permission, I think what may well be necessary in the future is a spam inbox, that we can then configure to our own liking. It would work similar to Gmail’s spam filter and/or Askimet initially, and the security protocols can then be raised or lowered according to the whims of the user.
An ability to mark tweets as spam, as well as accounts, would help considerably, too.
OH wow, I found another way around reason 2 for blocking someone. You could make an @reply, but somewhere in your tweet, put a #linux, and a linux re-tweeting bot will automatically re-tweet it. I would assume that there is other bots that would do a similar thing.
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Hi Sheamus,
The main reason I block people on Twitter is one that I’ve never heard anyone discuss before.
I happen to believe that not only do the people I follow reflect on me, but so do the people that I permit to follow me.
Let’s say that Twitter user A uses auto-follow, which means that most likely the list of people that he or she follows is filled with spammers, bots and porn sex-kittens.
Twitter user B visits user A’s Twitter profile page, and even though I’m not following user A, user B doesn’t know that immediately. I don’t want my avatar mixed in among the $$$ signs, half-naked women and ugly brown boxes o_0 that’s found on user A’s profile.
As far as being able to completely shield yourself from someone you’ve blocked, when all anyone has to do is go to Twitter Search, enter your user name and read not only the tweets that you send, but also the tweets that others send you, I don’t see how that’s possible, even with the suggestions you’ve made.
@SharonMcP
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Your closing comment is particularly true now that Twitter has redesigned and opened up search via the new homepage. Still, it’s awkward to follow individual timelines via search, especially when logged out, and I’d propose that if a person is logged in then they should not be able to search the tweets of anybody who has blocked them.
As said, it’s a system that works on Facebook. Which, admittedly, has a different setup, but I’m not convinced you should be allowed to call it a block if it doesn’t actually do that. Instead, I propose: “Hide Me Kinda”.
twitter blocking & following back. It takes too much time to look at each person thats following me. what i’m doing now is look/skim through them in expanded mode, one can see their latest post & date – i hardly block anyone but do unfollow quite alot – realising im not interested in their field – the endless make a fast buck brigade ” with out lifting a finger”! but they R welcome to look at my riveting posts! What i’d like is to be able to unfollow from the home page, ie see posts of those we are following, with out having to go anywhere else to unfollow them!
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Informative article. I hope they are able to improve upon the block functionality. I’ve gone back and forth between protecting and unprotecting my tweets. Just decided to leave them unprotected at the moment.
Have you checked lately to see whether a blocked user’s @Mentions still appear in Twitter search? A couple tweets I made recently about a media figure aren’t appearing in the search for his @Handle, and I’m wondering if it might be the case that he has me blocked.
There’s now software that will let you check if anyone has blocked you. I checked my account with it, & discovered pretty much every porn-spammer I’ve ever blocked has blocked me in retalitaion.
Now, that’s just fine with me – there’s no-one on that list I’m not delighted to be blocked by. Problem is, those blocks remain against my name even after the account-holders have been kicked out of Twitter – which means that if I didn’t have enough followers myself to keep the ratio safe I’D have my account suspended simply for trying to do something about these nuisances!!
Surely if an account’s suspended or terminated for spam or other twittering misconduct it shouldn’t continue to have its blocks counted against other people – is it any wonder so many tweeters think the initiative is always with the spammers?!
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Indeed. Do you have a link to this software? Cheers.
My web security blocked me from using Twitter & i found out while blocked that when mu screen turned red and blocked me from using Twitter it was for my own security.Something must be wrong with Twitter since the recent changes.Many friends & contacts were blocked for unknown reasons by Twitter then by Their own web security.I’m worried now about any Twitter use since i do not use it for business or to solicite like most folks.Even middle school and high school kids have quit Tweeting due to spamming allowed by Twitter people.Why so corrupt?Openly?
maybe the point here would be don't take any of this shit too seriously. the people you meet online don't really know you. who cares if you run into some aholes? they exist in every part of life, and you can't create a false reality where they don't exist.
You can block a person completely. You block him/her, change your username, and put your account to private that way, he can't see you at all. If he attempts to search your tweets, since you changed your name and you're on private, your tweets won't appear in the server.
I wish they would change the blocking to be more like facebook, Ive got a really annoying follower who i want to think ive deleted my account but cant because it doesnt work like that, instead I have to put up with his stalkerish tweets as well as seeing him at work! urgh! I'm a tad annoyed.
I still think that the main problem with why they don't make a block more “you're gone” is that, they just log out, and see all your stuff. You're publically displaying the information afterall, and you can't block an anonymous user unless you make your tweets protected.
If you are worried about people looking at your Twitter feed make it totally private. Honestly I never understood the appeal of being on Twitter or Facebook if you do not want certain individuals to potentially look you up. If you are concerned about your privacy there are traditional online ways to communicate with only your friends like email. It seems a little hypocritical to even sign up for “look at me” services like Twitter and Facebook if you are worried about who might be looking at your profile.
Because of this blocking problems, I have to protect my twitter just because I don't want this certain person to be able to see my tweets.
It's a bit annoying since now I'm not able to tweet to people who don't follow me.
I wish that twitter would make some changes regarding this feature / issue soon ..
Not necessarily true, some people may work with someone who they don't want to see their postings, or who they later fall out with and then no longer want them to be able to read their postings. Spouses or partners may split up and not want to have to change their whole twitter account, but also not want their estranged partner to know everything they do.
Just a thought
I'd like to have that software…
The solution to this is not to post anything online. Email between friends is easier because it is only for them to see. Why even be on Twitter if you are worried about someone reading your postings.
twitter please upgrade you block system,it is very poor.there is this person that really irritates me,i blocked him because his tweets where irritating but i still see his tweets when someone RT's it.that is no good for me.
I've also had problems with the partial block issue because of jerky users. I agree with the author on the points that he has raised.
Btw, add me all! I'm trying for 5K followers by the end of the month, lol.